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So, I went to a Hunger Games Simulator thread on 8chan today, and noticed someone nommed Shay and Vella from Broken Age. Shay didn't do much, but man, Vella was a monster in the match as she earned a spot in Valhalla with 6 kills. Unfortunately, she blew it in the final 4 and lost.

What's 8chan, is it 4chan only worse?

It's like 4chan, with the exception that you can make your own board. The board I go to is /hgs/ which stands for Hunger Games Simulator. Like 4chan, 8chan has its share of controversy which I will not go into detail here.

Make your own board? Things will get illegal real quick if that's the case.

Bales, enough of your jive talk. When is your metal band gonna release a new album?

I sacrifice all my albums to Satan.

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I sacrifice all my albums to Satan.

Dad says he never got any of your albums. Are you sure you aren't screwing up the sacrifice?

I always knew Germans were hell spawn.

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To be fair. I haven't seen sexism mentioned as an argument much at all for all the negative press. Probably because those people have actually seen the trailer. If it even looked half decent, I'm sure that argument would be brought up a whole lot more.

It looks like a $500.000 parody flick. It really does.

EDIT: I'd like to thank Bill Murray for doing what he could to save my childhood. At least this, I can easily ignore.

This is really great because now I know I can go watch this movie without a bunch of whiny fanboys of the original franchise bothering me.

Either they pay to watch the movie in theaters and contribute to it's success and suffer, which I will take joyful glee in seeing, or they stay home because of their """"""""perfectly objective non-biased"""""" opinions and leave me alone to watch it in peace.

Everything about this is shaping up to be a great movie-going experience.

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I never really thought of "Ghostbusters fans" as tying into any particular demographic. What is a Ghostbusters fan? And why do you hate them?

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I never really thought of "Ghostbusters fans" as tying into any particular demographic. What is a Ghostbusters fan? And why do you hate them?

Because like most die-hard fanboys of anything from the 80s/90s, they are extremely against any kind of innovation when it comes to the franchise in question. Just look at all the knee-jerk reactions to the new Ghostbusters movie trailer.

Look at any reboot or re-imagining of any popular franchise from that era. They've got this mentality that anything new that has do with that franchise should cater to them exclusively and screw anyone else that's just getting into it, and screw the creators too. They're backwards-thinking.

They build up this huge storm of negativity surrounding the thing in question and drive away everyone else from a potentially good thing because they lack the self-awareness to recognize that maybe their opinions aren't a reflection of the quality of the thing, but of their own biases. But they'll never acknowledge that. They will continue to act as if all the conclusions they come to are a result of rational, reasoned thought when that couldn't be further from the truth because they won't even give the thing in question a chance to begin with!!!!!!!

They'll shit on anything that doesn't conform to their expectations, and in the same breath demand to be surprised. They're hypocrites, they're annoying, and they try to act like the gatekeepers of what's allowed into popular culture, mock everyone else for being different and yet act like they're special for being counter-culture or some crap.

They're every reason nerds have always deserved to be hated, in short.

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Well, the trailer made it look like the cartoon. Little too silly for my movie tastes. I wouldn't call Ghostbusters a sacred franchise though. I'm not sure there will be much hate outside the internet. I don't think it would be one of those "yelling at the screen and throwing shit" sort of scenes people sometimes make. At least the trailer showed you what you're going to get and not trying and trick people into thinking it's a different kind of movie. The people whom aren't interested in the trailer, most likely aren't going to go see it.

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The people whom aren't interested in the trailer, most likely aren't going to go see it.

And nothing would make me happier because of the reasons I mentioned earlier.

But what we both know is that independent of the actual quality of the movie, fanboys who feel threatened for whatever reason are still going to build up a narrative that this movie is objectively the worst thing ever.

They're never going to see the damn thing but this will be the prevailing opinion that people will use to inform themselves and others, and that makes me mad.

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90% of all movie trailers suck and should never be used to judge if a movie is bad before release. This trailer followed the same pattern of editing that ruins most other Hollywood trailers and therefore told us nothing about the film except for a couple of cheap jokes. I bet you could totally edit the original Ghostbusters film down into a crappy trailer too.

Edit: Prime example of a a film being edited to feel like something else entirely, and proof that trailers tell us nothing-

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Those kind of trailer recuts are some of my favorite things ever.

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To be fair. I haven't seen sexism mentioned as an argument much at all for all the negative press. Probably because those people have actually seen the trailer. If it even looked half decent, I'm sure that argument would be brought up a whole lot more.

It looks like a $500.000 parody flick. It really does.

EDIT: I'd like to thank Bill Murray for doing what he could to save my childhood. At least this, I can easily ignore.

Is it me, or does Leslie Jones' character come across more like a token Black character like out of the 30s than an actual character out of modern day? I mean, just from what has been shown so far.

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This is really great because now I know I can go watch this movie without a bunch of whiny fanboys of the original franchise bothering me.

Either they pay to watch the movie in theaters and contribute to it's success and suffer, which I will take joyful glee in seeing...

I don't particularly love the 'Ghostbusters' films or anything (I think the first one is a very good movie but I only watch it once a decade or so and the second one is kinda crappy... with a few redeeming moments) but I genuinely hope that one day, a bunch of corporate fat-cats decide to rehash a series that you do love, Carl. I hope that one day they do just that and that they do it in the most blatantly 'designed by committee and appealing to the lowest common denominator' way possible (as seems to be the case with the 'Ghostbusters' remake). Then maybe you'll think twice before spewing forth your bile and contempt at those out there who do love the likes of the original 'Ghostbusters'.

As for myself; all I know is that I'm sick of needless and endless remakes of beloved movies.

Oh and also, the trailer for the movie looks Adam Sandler levels of bad. That footage made my head spin like Regan in The Exorcist. I must be possessed!

...Quick, someone get Leslie Jones to scream annoying Exorcist quotes at me, whilst replacing a single word with her character's name of "Patty". Non-hilarious results shall ensue.

Everything about this is shaping up to be a great movie-going experience.

Oh, I wholeheartedly agree and I should know what I'm talking about. After all, my favourite movie ever is 'Jack and Jill'. Myself and the other local lobotomy patients had a grand old time at the cinema on that particular day-trip out, I can tell you. *drool*

But what we both know is that independent of the actual quality of the movie, fanboys who feel threatened for whatever reason are still going to build up a narrative that this movie is objectively the worst thing ever.

They're never going to see the damn thing but this will be the prevailing opinion that people will use to inform themselves and others, and that makes me mad.

Look, if a studio like Sony is going to remake a well loved film such as 'Ghostbusters', then they should bloody well, downright expect a shed load of backlash. Not just from fanboys but from casual admirers of the first film, such as myself. If they don't want the backlash then don't use the 'Ghostbusters' brand to sell a shitty looking movie. Create a new comedic film about ghost hunters instead. No, of course not... Sony has dollar signs in their eyes and that 'crossed out ghost' logo will bring in all sorts of extra revenue.

All of this has absolutely nothing to do with creativity. It's all about the bastardisation and commercialisation of an art form. Obviously, studios want to make money. I get that. They always have and they always will. That's their modus operandi - how else are they supposed to stay in business and as such, it is completely fair play. However, the Hollywood of old was able to do make a tidy profit, whilst also making original stories in the process. After all, that's what gave us the original 'Ghostbusters' film.

I personally hope that this remake* falls flat on its arse and bombs at the box office. That is presuming that it's a bad movie of course. Who knows though? Perhaps it'll be one of those remakes which are really good (you know, the ones that you're able to count on one hand). Remakes becoming financial failures is about the only hope we have left for this reboot/recycle machine of madness to grind to a halt.

Quite frankly, I've been holding off giving my opinion on this new movie for quite a while but that trailer pretty much told me all that I need to know. It looks absolutely awful and regardless of whether or not the movie turns out to be okay in the end - I could never love any movie that makes such a horrible, lame 'Exorcist' reference. That was straight out of... well, 'The Exorcist'... but also one of those God awful "parody" abominations such as 'Epic Movie'. Which is a shame because I would love to be able to root for a great looking movie with an all-female cast in the lead roles**.

Is it me, or does Leslie Jones' character come across more like a token Black character like out of the 30s than an actual character out of modern day? I mean, just from what has been shown so far.

Hmm... I'd say more like the 80's/90's. You know, the type of "sassy" black character who's response to absolutely everything is "AW, HELL NAW!".

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* I refuse to use the bullsh*t term 'reboot' to describe any movie - it's a meaningless term that has been created by a bunch of suits to try and advert the rightful distrust and hatred of remakes that has naturally built up over the years. Now that people are becoming wary of the term "reboot", Hollywood is already trying to create another term for 'shameless cash-in'. This time, it's "re-configuration". No, really. I actually read that term in regards to a new movie the other day. Naturally, it was spewed forth from the mouth of a corporate hog/desecrator of classic films; much like a crappy looking CGI ghost spewing chunks at Kristen Wiig.

** As will be evidenced by a video that I'm currently working on. It should be uploaded tomorrow.

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Double post... ooohhhh, ain't I just the little cheeky one?

I'm currently in the process of recording my voice-over for my latest YouTube video (and trying to get my cat to stop mewing and ruining takes) and I think that I've finally discovered my "YouTube voice". I've never really liked the sound of my natural voice when making videos and have experimented with "put on voices" in the past but this time; I think that I've nailed it. I'll be very curious to know what you all think tomorrow (when I upload the video).

My only slight concern is that putting on a voice feels a little fake but then again, presenting YouTube videos is essentially fake. It's always an exaggerated version of your true feelings and therefore, it seems only right that my voice should be an exaggerated version of my true voice.

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Before I die, I want to dance around a bonfire on a Caribbean beach with my woman, knocking back a few bottles of Kraken and blasting the theme to The Curse Of Monkey Island on speakers.

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Before I die, I want to dance around a bonfire on a Caribbean beach with my woman, knocking back a few bottles of Kraken and blasting the theme to The Curse Of Monkey Island on speakers.

Funnily enough, what you just described is preciously what I got up to last weekend. Well, I say preciously; the "bonfire on a Caribbean beach" was myself stood in a soggy ditch, holding a lit lighter, on the outskirts of Farley village. The "bottles of Kraken" were discount bottles of special brew and the only music playing was the tuneless beat of a fat man, holding a bongo betwixt his sweaty thighs and hitting it with his hairy gonads. Still, it's more or less the exact same experience.

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If there are Super Sayains and Super Namekians why not Super Humans? Or Super Earthlings.

Because most Earthlings are weak compared to other Alien races.

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If there are Super Sayains and Super Namekians why not Super Humans? Or Super Earthlings.

Because most Earthlings are weak compared to other Alien races.

Sayian's where weak compared to most races till the Namekian Saga. Kid Goku lost to a number of humans during Dragon Ball.

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Before I die, I want to dance around a bonfire on a Caribbean beach with my woman, knocking back a few bottles of Kraken and blasting the theme to The Curse Of Monkey Island on speakers.

Funnily enough, what you just described is preciously what I got up to last weekend. Well, I say preciously; the "bonfire on a Caribbean beach" was myself stood in a soggy ditch, holding a lit lighter, on the outskirts of Farley village. The "bottles of Kraken" were discount bottles of special brew and the only music playing was the tuneless beat of a fat man, holding a bongo betwixt his sweaty thighs and hitting it with his hairy gonads. Still, it's more or less the exact same experience.

Cocaine's a hell of a drug.

And hey, this reminds me, is you're shower working properly? I remember setting it to only burning hot and freezing cold, but more recently I rigged it to the sewer line. Hope you like piping hot s**t on your face in the morning, me old cream cracker.

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This is really great because now I know I can go watch this movie without a bunch of whiny fanboys of the original franchise bothering me.

Either they pay to watch the movie in theaters and contribute to it's success and suffer, which I will take joyful glee in seeing...

I don't particularly love the 'Ghostbusters' films or anything (I think the first one is a very good movie but I only watch it once a decade or so and the second one is kinda crappy... with a few redeeming moments) but I genuinely hope that one day, a bunch of corporate fat-cats decide to rehash a series that you do love, Carl. I hope that one day they do just that and that they do it in the most blatantly 'designed by committee and appealing to the lowest common denominator' way possible (as seems to be the case with the 'Ghostbusters' remake). Then maybe you'll think twice before spewing forth your bile and contempt at those out there who do love the likes of the original 'Ghostbusters'.

As for myself; all I know is that I'm sick of needless and endless remakes of beloved movies.

Oh and also, the trailer for the movie looks Adam Sandler levels of bad. That footage made my head spin like Regan in The Exorcist. I must be possessed!

...Quick, someone get Leslie Jones to scream annoying Exorcist quotes at me, whilst replacing a single word with her character's name of "Patty". Non-hilarious results shall ensue.

Everything about this is shaping up to be a great movie-going experience.

Oh, I wholeheartedly agree and I should know what I'm talking about. After all, my favourite movie ever is 'Jack and Jill'. Myself and the other local lobotomy patients had a grand old time at the cinema on that particular day-trip out, I can tell you. *drool*

But what we both know is that independent of the actual quality of the movie, fanboys who feel threatened for whatever reason are still going to build up a narrative that this movie is objectively the worst thing ever.

They're never going to see the damn thing but this will be the prevailing opinion that people will use to inform themselves and others, and that makes me mad.

Look, if a studio like Sony is going to remake a well loved film such as 'Ghostbusters', then they should bloody well, downright expect a shed load of backlash. Not just from fanboys but from casual admirers of the first film, such as myself. If they don't want the backlash then don't use the 'Ghostbusters' brand to sell a shitty looking movie. Create a new comedic film about ghost hunters instead. No, of course not... Sony has dollar signs in their eyes and that 'crossed out ghost' logo will bring in all sorts of extra revenue.

All of this has absolutely nothing to do with creativity. It's all about the bastardisation and commercialisation of an art form. Obviously, studios want to make money. I get that. They always have and they always will. That's their modus operandi - how else are they supposed to stay in business and as such, it is completely fair play. However, the Hollywood of old was able to do make a tidy profit, whilst also making original stories in the process. After all, that's what gave us the original 'Ghostbusters' film.

I personally hope that this remake* falls flat on its arse and bombs at the box office. That is presuming that it's a bad movie of course. Who knows though? Perhaps it'll be one of those remakes which are really good (you know, the ones that you're able to count on one hand). Remakes becoming financial failures is about the only hope we have left for this reboot/recycle machine of madness to grind to a halt.

Quite frankly, I've been holding off giving my opinion on this new movie for quite a while but that trailer pretty much told me all that I need to know. It looks absolutely awful and regardless of whether or not the movie turns out to be okay in the end - I could never love any movie that makes such a horrible, lame 'Exorcist' reference. That was straight out of... well, 'The Exorcist'... but also one of those God awful "parody" abominations such as 'Epic Movie'. Which is a shame because I would love to be able to root for a great looking movie with an all-female cast in the lead roles**.

** As will be evidenced by a video that I'm currently working on. It should be uploaded tomorrow.

Ugh, see, this is exactly what I'm talking about. That sense of entitlement. "I kind of liked this movie but HOW DARE they try and make a reboot/remake/whatever that doesn't personally appeal to me! If I don't like it then nobody else should and I will personally contribute to its failure so even the people who might potentially like this sort of thing are deprived anyway because only I know what is Good And Right for the masses. Also, I'm going to insult the people who enjoy things that are different from what I like."

Seriously, Sony SHOULD expect backlash??? On what fucking grounds? Who made fanboys the authority on anything in this world? I can tell you right now, If Psychonauts 2 ended up changing developers halfway and they got the most soulless, designiest-by-commitiest people to handle it and it ended up being the exact opposite of everything I liked about the first game, I still wouldn't shit on it like this. It's immature as hell, first off, and just downright unnecessary. I'd go into the no doubt sexist undertones that's colouring your opinion on the movie, but you'd just deny that. Of COURSE your opinion is objective and rational, right? That's why you can come to a conclusion on what the movie is going to be like based on a couple minutes of footage.

Why can't you nerds chill out and not shit on everyone else's fun. Like how dare I get excited for an updated, all-female cast remake of a cult movie. Just another thing to add to my list of "Do Not Discuss on Forums". But okay whatever, have fun with your circlejerk I guess.

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Honestly, Feig has a pretty great track record with comedy movies. The movie might not appeal to everyone, since Feig has a weird sense of humor, but he does good work.

Trailers, however, are not his forte. He has never, ever turned out a good trailer, but all his movies (well, at least the three I've seen) have been extremely enjoyable.

For example, Spy. The trailer looked like the worst sort of James Bond parody where the main joke was Melissa McCarthy falling down and the movie was great. Not just a great comedy film, but a great action film as well.

And Bridesmaids looked like the dumbest sort of chick flick comedy, but was surprisingly very funny. I dunno how he does it, but I'm largely excited to see this film because I want to see what sort of take he'll have.

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To be honest, said fanboys are pretty much the only reason Sony/Columbia set out to make this movie in the first place.

At this point, it reminds me of the Evil Dead remake. Decades of fans asking for a new movie, finally one is dished out. But they wanted a true sequel, not a remake. At least with that situation the result was Ash Vs. Evil Dead. And who knows, now that Sony has opened up a Ghostbusters specific branch, maybe at a certain point we will get a proper Ghostbusters III, which will more than likely just end up being a torch passing movie since Ramis is dead.

Sigh.

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I'm not talking about it anymore. Simply, for the opinion that I have already given the movie more of my time than I feel it deserves. I hope it turns out to be "okay". That's probably the best I could hope for. Even if they showed the worst of the film, those scenes are still in it.

I think remakes, in general, are just a cheap way to make more money. I mean how many westerns were pretty much the same movie with a different title and names? Now I'm taking more of a shot at Cabin Fever. Talk about scraping the bottom for an idea. A movie that isn't thought of as classic, which was already done many times before, is being remade. Why?

I just don't know why modern remakes have to be so terrible. There have been some really good ones in the past... Just not in the past 10 years. Remakes where the original film was made pre-1970 actually have a pretty good track record. What happened?

Edit: I have only seen the first of the newest incarnation of Planet of the Apes, but I felt that movie was pretty good and brought something new to the franchise(mostly, telling the story in order, instead of jumping back and forth as those films used to).

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I think it's pretty much a matter of the handler. There are a pack of really good remakes out there. Peter Jackson's King Kong, Martin Scorsese's Cape Fear, John Carpenter's The Thing, Philip Kaufman's Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Steven Soderbergh's Oceans Eleven, David Cronenberg's The Fly, Billy Wilder's Some Like It Hot, and Joel & Ethan Coen's True Grit to name a few.

Even The Departed was a remake of a Chinese cop thriller called Infernal Affairs.

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Geez this place has really turned hostile lately..

Agreed, and I'm getting sick and tired of the hostility.

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Geez this place has really turned hostile lately..

Agreed, and I'm getting sick and tired of the hostility.

I myself don't really understand it either.

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