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Hmm, still wanting to see animal profiles available like with traditional coat of arms. That is what this is, after all, a family coat of arms. Most commonly lions, griffons, horses and such. These traditional images aren't even copy written so it shouldn't be hard to find.

Lion (yes, I know the family name here is Griffith)

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Griffon

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I get that the goal here is a more simplified artistic style but hopefully something can be done.

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Cool work, everyone. Here's my attempt at something familiar, somewhat stylized.

Edit: Another one. I saw the eye logo and couldn't resist. I'm sorry.

Edit: Edit: I'm just gonna keep on making these....

Awesome! I love the LeChuck and Lucasarts logo ones. We should include some DF-related symbols to help a two headed baby out!

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Here's an example of traditional coat of arms types that seem to follow more in-line with the art theme here. Though this one is definitely copywritten.

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(just the creatures inside, not the whole thing)

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I'd like to see an option to make a layer an invert-type mask so that we can overlay a region split between two colors and have the opposite color show on each side.

I've attached an example of how it might work.

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I really should stop making silly images and work on giving feedback to the creation tool, and start thinking seriously about my own sigil.

Later.

Until then, here's Coach Oleander, Death Chicken, and Kitty.

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Death Chicken is great. Ha.

I think the potential suggestions mentioned so far, in terms of functionality:

* Character preview

* +/- button on the X/Y/Scale/Rotation sliders, for fine tuning position

* More skin and hair colors

* Ruler on the horizontal and vertical for easier eye balling / overlay grid for easier eye balling

* Option to make a layer an invert-type mask so that we can overlay a region split between two colors and have the opposite color show on each side.

Other designs requested (though there is a whole other topic for that):

* Hourglass

* Weasel / Ferret

* More plants

* Side views of animals

* Coin(s)

* Scales, as in weights and measures / justice

* Non-mammal animals (e.g. reptiles, fish, etc)

* Horses, lions, griffons

* More designs with empty space inside (like the animal faces)

* Foot cut off at ankle, hands that aren't fists, mouths,

And a new one I was playing around with, using lightning bolts to create an angle arrow pattern:

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And happy alien...trying to do something smiling has been interesting. Ha:

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Smiles

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These are really great! I'm maintaining a list of additional symbols to add - fantastic suggestions from everyone.

I think that we're not going to do profile views of animals. It keeps it more consistent if they are only straight on like the ones that we have now.

@Smiles - that lightning bolt arrow is awesome! I feel like skull one gives off a very strong Luftrausers vibe with the colors you've chosen! :D

@armored_mammal - love the inversion idea! Not sure if we'll be able to add that though. But a really cool idea!

@Klatuu - your Death Chicken is inspired! I can't believe that you convincingly turned the volcano/geyser symbol into a chicken leg. Unreal! :D!

@Blood Bridle - I'm having a hard time importing your strings. :( Not sure if the tool got updated or there's a bug or what! I'll try again - would love to see what you've made. :D

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Brad, I think I know what's going wrong with the strings Blood Bridle posted. When pasting them into the forum, the quotes got changed. Regular quotes ("") got replaced with fancy opening/closing quotes (”“). Replacing them makes them importable. (I think). Are these what you created, Blood Bridle?

Smiles, I really like your nesting/alternating patterns.

P.S. New interface! Neat! Any other updates we should know about?

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Just trying to play around with crude circles or swirls (using the jai alai weapon):

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And someone in the sigil design request topic wanted to see some more southwestern motifs... I tried to create something with that sort of feel with that we have available right now:

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And anyone into just shape play:

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Enough clogging up this thread for a while...

Edit: Another:

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Edit 2: A few more:

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I'm not a fan of wolves, but nesting wolves for design just looks cool often. I won't use any as my sigil though.

Smiles

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@Blood Bridle - I'm having a hard time importing your strings. :( Not sure if the tool got updated or there's a bug or what! I'll try again - would love to see what you've made. :D

Klaatu is a forensic psychologist driven mad by the antediluvian truths he glimpsed under cyclopean ruins in the north pole. It solved the problem and posted my drafts.

Pt'ugnala Noggoth Zarash yeteli-aggarad, msh'tlefnu oonpiud ami uqun greepoa Zarash?

Yes.

And anyone into just shape play:

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My wife suggested we spice things up with shape-play, something an ex-boyfriend turned her onto. Maybe if I'd been willing to experiment instead of reacting with repulsion we'd still be together. Seriously though, looks like the Chevy logo.

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RUN IN FEAR!

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i would love this suggestion

- Option to make a layer an invert-type mask so that we can overlay a region split between two colors and have the opposite color show on each side.

if that isnt possible then an easyer way world be to have 'half' symbols. cut down the middle. people can do the same kind of things and achive an inverted effect and you wouldnt need to code ridiculous invert scripts. if you did do that you would also effectively double the symbol count the tool offers without actualy making twice as many symbols. and that would make doing heraldic designs easier as well as offer creative people more acccesto abstract shapes

in a similar way that you have a "square and a rectangle" the rectangle is just half of the square. cut the octopus down the middle. it still looks like an octopus, still fits your theme, people can still use a full octopus, you can put two difrent coolored octopus halves together to make a bi-colored otopus. but you can also use the half octopush to make non-octopus images you couldn't before... bam! the flexibility of that symbol has grown by an exponent and you only spent time designing one octopus

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my first attempt, though it's not at all what I want, since the options I would like are not existent.

not sure I'm sold on the primary color on the first one, the second might look better.

The last one is a rough sketch of what I'd like to be able to do.

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I gave it a go...

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Limited but I guess my moth came out pretty good. Now I just need $100 and a motto, battle cry, and some better names that aren't the same as my dog.

And well, I guess my keep name doesn't make that much sense with my sigle but whatever.

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You guys! Enjoying the editor. It's getting better!

..but i'd LOVE to see some more of these elements

- Human skulls, anatomy stuff

- Human heads, silhouettes

- Beards, mullets, mustaches/mutton chops

- Animal skulls

- more horns!

- Bardic elements, flying V-guitars

- Magic/alchæmical elements

- Books, scrolls, tomes

- Dæmon heads, claws

- more claws!

- Armor, helmets, shields

- Weapons, axes, daggers, spears

And stuff like this;

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Glad to see a new round of updates put in. Here is something with some new items and some old. I don't think I'd ever use something like this for a sigil since it is not really my taste, but I like the look of it. Until now, I did not know how to use the maple leaf for anything. Ha. And I used one of the birds twice to get some extra white behind the horse/bull. It kind of looks like it is mounted. Ha.

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Also, the "wave" or whatever is new in the environments, looks like a witch / wizard / warlock hat, or maybe the top of a pumpkin. Ha.

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I look forward to more experimenting with the new stuff this weekend.

Another junky playing around one:

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Smiles

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I like the new image material, keep it coming!

Aww, no more import/export! I miss that.

A few suggestions that may or may not be feasible at this point:

* A "Clear all" button to clear all layers (Just for convenience)

* Select and Move multiple layers together?

* Toggle transparency? For some images like the skull, negative space like the eye sockets are transparent. It would be nice if they could optionally be filled solid with the background color, but I understand if this isn't doable.

I still haven't decided what I want to do...

In this issue:

* Volcano also makes a neat hummingbird

* Can I be Canada?

* Cobra!

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I like the new image material, keep it coming!

Aww, no more import/export! I miss that.

I hope this comes back, that is how I was keeping track of interesting designs or random ideas that I didn't share in this topic! But it might not be compatible with the new actual banner I see that the bloodline has. :-(

Smiles

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Hey guys! Some of you noticed that we updated the editor to have a banner shape rather than a square! This is a recent change - we realized that we were always showing the sigils inside of the cool banner shape in the game's UI so we decided to just let people edit those triangles on the bottom. This gives you a better idea of what it's going to look like in-game while also giving you some cool creative options with the bottom of the banner. :D

We took out the debug area, but we have share links that can be generated through the "+" at the bottom left underneath the editor. You can share the designs with links that will look like this!

http://bit.ly/1jlxyOW

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@Klatuu - your hummingbird and cobra are AWESOME! This is the kind of stuff that I never would have thought of and make me REALLY HAPPY that we're going to get all of these rad submissions from backers! Thanks for posting them! :D!

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@Brad - Thank you very much!

I've been having fun playing around with the tool and seeing everyone else's creations. It's going to be tough choosing a final version. I've had to restrain myself from spamming the forum with every idea I thought was halfway cool or funny.

But since I'm posting anyway...

Stormtrooper: http://bit.ly/RD0kok

Mer-skeleton: http://bit.ly/1opNnw3

Keep up the good work!

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Hey guys! Some of you noticed that we updated the editor to have a banner shape rather than a square! This is a recent change - we realized that we were always showing the sigils inside of the cool banner shape in the game's UI so we decided to just let people edit those triangles on the bottom. This gives you a better idea of what it's going to look like in-game while also giving you some cool creative options with the bottom of the banner. :D

We took out the debug area, but we have share links that can be generated through the "+" at the bottom left underneath the editor. You can share the designs with links that will look like this!

http://bit.ly/1jlxyOW

Most of the designs I had, other than the random ones posted here, I only kept as debug exports so I could import -- most were fleeting experiments. :-(

But I look forward to digging into the new tool. :-)

Smiles

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Oh man House Mer-Skeleton! Hilarious! :D!

@Smiles - Sorry we ripped out the debug functionality without giving you a warning! :( But hopefully it's pretty easy to recreate the stuff with the new, more fleshed out version of the tool! :D!

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Sigil of Clan Stonebeast - followers of a demigod, the Great Gilded Lion

Heh, awesome! Love the little crown.

Here's mine. ;^)

Motto: "

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Can you please add a button to disable the tooltips? It's difficult for me to make minute adjustments to my Sigil because I can't see through the giant box telling me "Hey - this is a Sigil." Thanks.

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